Introduction

Darren Roberts, Pastor Jerry Ragg and Pastor Lance Quinn are back on the Churchmen podcast. They talk about biblical counseling as a movement and its relationship to our ecclesiology or its relationship to local churches. Darren: I have been told from really wonderful well-meaning godly sincere followers of Christ in in my church here and other churches that they need an ACBC certified counselor more than anyone else. LZ: Some of the greatest people I've ever counseled with and alongside have been equipped by the ministry there at ACBC  and formerly NAKE. The body of Christ is a dynamic it lives and breathes by the power of the Holy Spirit and the maturity of its