"It's my secret agenda to turn every one of these podcasts into a working genius podcast. So I'm going to go ahead and do that right now." "There is this like sort of coming together and breaking apart that is a natural motion of teams and companies where it feels like if you're just falling on one side or trying to just do, you know, amoeba or silos, you're missing this, this natural movement," he says. 'The pain of a silo organization is that there's suspicion because you don't know what other people are doing,. And then there's frustration with the experience of kind of feeling lonely'