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Introduction
On this episode we have a discussion with kevin mitchell and eric howell. Kevin is a professor of genetics at trinity college dublin, he describes the massive complexity of both our genes, but also our development. Eric has worked on integrated information theory, which is a modern, popular mathematical theory of consciousness from julio tonony. He's also a novelist, his recent novel, the revelations, is a story about some neuro scientists who are trying to come up with a good theory of consciousness. We discuss emergence, the concept of agency and autonomy, and whether those are important for building ai that we would consider true a i.