Russian Speakers in the Baltic States Are Not Cut With Ukraine

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I'm wondering how we should think about people like alexander malof, who's a young russian pianist. His performance was cancelled by the montreal symphony orchestra. Where do we draw the line from putting real pressure on Russia and its leadership? We mustn't overdo it, particularly given the fact that actually the attitudes of the people of russia are one of the centres of gravity of this conflict. You know, we are not reaching to the russians with what's happening in ukraine. But we must hope that if they learned true cruelty of what the Russian army is doing, then they might change their attitude.

Radosław Sikorski is a Polish politician and journalist who is currently a Member of the European Parliament. He served as Defense Minister of Poland from 2005 to 2007, and as Foreign Minister from 2007 to 2014.

In this week’s conversation, Radosław Sikorski and Yascha Mounk discuss whether a unified Europe could play a real geopolitical role on the world stage in the future, reasons to be skeptical of the realist view that NATO or the West is to blame for the war, and the role of sanctioning Russia (and Russians) now and in the future.

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