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E15: Richard Hanania on Vivek Ramaswamy, Affirmative Action, and the Winning Agenda for 2024

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

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The Elon Musk Political Phenomenon

I think what conservatism is affects what liberalism is. Whatever liberalism is in a specific moment, it affects your services,. So conservatives did not care about women's so they were not passionate defenders of women's sports until the transition stuff. Liberals weren't even that pro immigration until Trump came along and then made them pro immigration, right? I was excited, like, oh, Elon Musk becomes conservative. Maybe this has a big change. But I think sort of his personality is sort of played into some liberal narratives about conservatives and how he's acted. And probably it's a wash at that point.

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