Cheff - What's Your View?

In the olden days, we had ye oldy run book rigt. And then somebody would make it, and write pearl and bash. The stuff hasn't changed; you're just doing more of it, right? Like you're just managing more of it because the tooling is reducing your cognitive load to get there. It definitely carries on from there as we head into immutable infra patterns around v m,. like a w s in everything that that brought to us, around cloud native and like containers.