We live in a world of outrageous pain and don't use any theology or any metaphysics to deaden our sensitivity to the pain. We actually we suffer with the divine, right? And divinity suffers infinitely. So if divinity is infinity of power and infinity of intimacy, it means divinity is also infinity of pain. That baby in Rwanda, she doesn't avert her eye. She's living in that suffering,. The infinity of pain that lives in us has to move us to become the God force  to create that new world.

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