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JD Vance: the reluctant interpreter of Trumpism

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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Are You on Meryl Streep's Side?

I think that one of the places that gets you, which at least in my view is at least somewhat interesting, is there was a there was an aesthetic revulsion to Trump and it times it worked in his favor. And he has a, I don't know if it's a strategic or an intuitive genius for it, but he does pick a lot of these fights and they draw a sharper battle line. That puts things in a bit of a different place. It gives people, I think, a little bit of a Different license in which to join with him.

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