The Importance of Spiritual Impulses in a Human Life

I think there's really something quite beautiful and poignant about this possibility in a human life that if you wanted to you could through some practice actually sort of die and stay alive even though being alive won't be quite as important right? I don't mean it's a nihilistic way or you know drop away what I mean it just becomes less like severe or something you know which is really quite wonderful. If we don't participate in the spiritual world how would we bring those resources back into our into our earthly life even into our conversations, he says.