It's 2016 and I just want to paint a picture for the listeners. Open AI and TikTok were literally just founded, like their absolute infancy stages. Trevor had kind of spent these different evolutions from like web 1 to web 2 into web 3 or the present. Being in the States was hyper aware of what happened on 4chan,. What it meant to create narratives that could capture heart and minds. How effective those can be and the devil's sword that presented.

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