What Happens When You All Just Start Melting Away Like All of Us?

Ri: Drugs have tendency to break down power structures. What about the fact that you yourself, just by being around the experience, can't help but be what reflects someone's vulnerability? Ri: There is like a spirit of it in the room when we're doing research with mdma for p t s t a. And so i think similarly with the, you know, working with the cademen, there's a sense of these mystical states being sacred.