Sam's, Where Did You Get the Idea for That?

"We'll use it to our advantage. Like we'll, we'll often find a way in by using another artist as a reference," he says. "If an artist is having a hard time writing new material for themselves, and a lot of it is I don't know what exactly what I want to say, exactly what's right for me." The song that you wish you could hear them sing, write it for them to sing; sometimes the song that comes is really good. And any ways that we can remove the boundaries between us and making things, they're all like self-imposed, all these like guards that we have up walls'