I hated cold calling and doorknobging. It was my least favorite, but Craigslist worked. That's why I tell people, if you study billionaires, wealthy people, 80% of them started in sales. So that's why I started. And I remember he was just, I don't know, he had this big mustache. Look at a movie star guy and he was, yeah,. Tom said, he was sitting on the side and he like turned to me and he was like, I've been looking for someone like you for 20 years. You got the right attitude. He goes, show up in the morning and I'll give you an office. so I left came back

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