In the Munda Kupanishad we have this mantra. Upadana karan. Here Krishna is saying, I, God, am both. Do we have examples of that in how do we understand it? Can there be anything in this universe which is where the creator and the substance are one and the same? You create something out of yourself. Spider is a good example. The spider to show that it's both the intelligent cause and the material cause. Effortlessly gives rise to herbs and shrubs and plants. Everything comes from God. Whether I like it or not, no longer depends on my likes and dislikes. Good and bad things are vibhuti, glory

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