We need dynamic systems that are self-correcting to build them on trust. Lynn Ostrom won the Nobel Prize for Economics in 2006 or 2008 for her work on governance principles for governing commons. And I'm kind of optimistic that they will outlast other experiments that won't work out that well. It's we're sort of pressure testing all these things right now because communities that are high trust that use trust and learn what it means to do that is not a natural, gosh, instinctive thing. This is hard one knowledge.