i wanted to have you expand on this little bit, because inequality is such subject in the national conversation now. You make a distinction between formal equality and substantive equality. How do you think about that in the context of free speech? And i so in our work at pen america, we devote a lot of attention to trying to enable lesser heard voices. We've an emerging voices program devoted to aspiring writers from non traditional backgrounds who would otherwise be locked out of the literary community.

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