i believe we're currently looking at five thousand odd russian casualties, according to the ukranian government. And i'm not sure whether they are all dead or dead or captured - but it's a huge number. It's more people than died in nine 11 and more people than the united states lost in the erac conflict. There is now a webside, special webside, created by the russia ministry of defence, were they actually posting pictures of dead bodies and also of captured russians. This is actually made for the, for the relatives of these soldiers in in russia. Although in russia it's difficult to excess actually, the sweptside, because it

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