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Pirate Monk Podcast

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The Importance of Relationships

"I think when you part of why there's an exuberance to, to use and to, to naivete is that you haven't suffered the loss of anything," she says. "You create lavishly and it's beautiful and you pour your soul into it, but no one wants to talk about the fact that there's, there are cycles." 'We didn't go into this work out of a hobby, we went into this work at a calling and out of passion'

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