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I think I genuinely believe that every person has his own sort of relationship with violence. And maybe this is a healthy thing in the sort of first stage where they're just always scared of it. It's always something they want to avoid at all costs. There's real potential good and bad from having that kind of relationship with it. Some people go a little bit further with it, or it causes them so much shame that they want to break through it in some way. But then after a while he trains and trains and training and he becomes the perpetrator himself until then he pokes through that membrane realizes that. He figures out a way to sort of utilize and transfer the fire of his rage
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