Welcome back to yet another episode of the Sleeping Barber Podcast. We're thrilled to have Avinash Kaushik, the Chief Strategy Officer at Croud, on our show today. With a background at Google and well-earned reputation for insightful digital perspectives, Avinash brings a wealth of knowledge in digital marketing, data science, and much more to our conversation.
In this enlightening episode, we navigate through a myriad of topics. We delve into the frequent pitfalls surrounding KPIs in marketing, scrutinize the limitations of traditional marketing funnels, and unpack the impactful concept of incrementality. Avinash offers an alternative approach that promises to enlighten your strategies.
Make sure to stick around until the end for a post-show chat with our hosts, Marc and V. Believe us when we say this episode is one you wouldn't want to pass up!
So, without further ado, let's jump right in!
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Our Guest:
Follow Avinash Kushki: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akaushik/
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Literature
Get a Grip on Incrementality: https://www.thinkwithgoogle.com/marketing-strategies/data-and-measurement/marketing-incrementality
Most Important KPIs: https://www.kaushik.net/avinash/the-most-important-business-kpis/
Driving Innovation from customer intent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzFegvyVJRM
Incrementality: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/akaushik_marketings-incrementality-business-results-activity-7029572543795630080-w-P0/
Brand & Performance Silos: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/akaushik_at-my-ripe-old-age-it-upsets-me-when-i-activity-7037000489066004480-trfZ/
See, Think, Do, Care Framework: https://www.kaushik.net/avinash/see-think-do-care-win-content-marketing-measurement/
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The Sleeping Barber Podcast:
Follow our updates here: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sleeping-barber/
Get in touch with our hosts:
Marc Binkley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbinkley/
Vassilis Douros: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vassilisdouros/
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Timestamps:
O:55 - Intro to Avinash Kaushik
3:38 - The 2 big measurement mistakes many marketers make about KPIs
9:44 - Traps that misguide marketers
14:48 - Why funnels idiodic and a what to use instead of them
20:48 - How to measure both short-term and long-term campaigns
25:26 - What is incrementality, why does it matter & how is it different from ROI?
30:20 - The ladder of awesomeness
33:30 - The shock of measuring incrementality
35:55 - Different types of incrementality
47:12 - Anybody can suck less, how any size company can use incrementality
51:48 - Customer curiosity & open mindedness makes marketers better
58:44 - What marketers need to learn
1:05:08 - Avinash’s career path to Croud
1:07:40 - How to find out more about Avinash
1:08:50 - Post pod discussion with V and Marc
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Where to listen
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