There are both macro and micro ways that you'll know one macro where you'll know for example is just we are a company that was growing quickly through this you know hyper growth period. We should start from a default place of assuming that we have a decent amount of this because we all know we've made contortions along these dimensions over the last few years. There are going to also be micro smells that you need to look out for like an example of this would be if you've got somebody who you feel as well play but they're repeatedly unhappy or unsatisfied with their role. That's another moment forlike an honest look at it. You can tell certainly when you're in one

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