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Be it Resolved, Ron DeSantis, not Donald Trump, will be the GOP nominee in 2024.

The Munk Debates Podcast

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Trump Is the Real Deal and He's Taking on the Pandemic and Opening Up Before Everyone Else

Santas: He has a lot, I think, going for him. In spite of his elite education, he's got real working class roots. And secondly, he has a motto that's apparently on t-shirts that say make America, Florida. What he's doing is he's treating Florida as in ways that he wants to tell Americans, he would treat America. The pandemic and opening up before everybody else are turning out to be quite powerful.

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