The Greatest Epics Are Not Just Morality Plays

I think it's good to live with the question a little bit too. That's probably why the literature that comes from, from these things are so powerful. I hope we can do more of that today because I think if we suffer from anything, it's we, we suffer from a great conceit that we have somehow risen above all these things through absolutely no effort, and I just don't think that's true.