The Old Crab Can Come Back

People are indoctrinated in this hierarchical, obey and command kind of ideology from childhood. How do we address that really fundamental question? And so many people have these strongly held, commonsensical views that maybe they've never even evaluated or thought about critically. So a movement that's going to make headway on this is going to have to be able to express the ideas not unduly polarize the empowered sector of society. You want them to be in the movement, but you don't want the movement to cater to them.