Inverting the Pyramid by Jonathan Wilson

Jonathan Wilson is the author of Inverting the Pyramid. The book was released in 2008 and then there was a second edition which came out in 2014, but it's obviously well over 10 years since you first published It. We'll be talking all about his book and looking back over a decade to see the impact that that book has had and when he's changed his ideas on things. Can I shock you? You can. Even I've read that book. Well I can't wait to hear this episode.