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Episode 106 - Faith Series: John Mark McMillan and His Faith's Impact on His Music...

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How John Mark McMillan Changed My Life

"I know a lot of us were very impacted by that song. But what I was impacted more was by John Mark's mind and ability to question things," she says. "He just, when he walked on that bus, I was like, this is a very smart guy."

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Speaker 2
This conversation was so good. My great friend, John Mark McMillan, of, you know, Christian songwriting fame. Oh, he's gonna hate that I even said that. You know, he's written a lot of incredible songs. I've had the honor of touring with John Mark when I was back doing music stuff. He is way more successful at music than me because he's still doing music. And I'm talking into a microphone, not singing in the one. John Mark is just, we've just done a lot of life together. And immediately from Jump Street, the first time I walked on a tour bus to John Mark, and you know, at this point he was, this was back in 2000 and, gosh, 2011, you know, his song at that point was How He Loves.
Speaker 4
Oh, How He Loves Us, right? Like,
Speaker 2
he is jealous for me. I mean, I could play the song right now, but maybe I'll have somebody that's editing this podcast play like the old school version of How He Loves just kind of underscoring this. Or maybe not, maybe it'll be completely silent because it's not legal. I don't know. All I had to say, I know a lot of us were very impacted by that song. But what I was impacted more was by John Mark's mind and ability to question things and allow God to actually be bigger than maybe we all imagined.
Speaker 4
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2
He just, when he walked on that bus, I was like, this is a very smart guy. And then when we started touring, we did two tours together. We did one with Shane and Shane, the Shane's. And another one, Jeremy Camp. And that Jeremy Camp tour specifically, we would have these things called conversations from the Red Chair, which was like the VIP ticket before. And it was a bunch of like worship leaders when we talk. And like, John Mark would start talking to that. And I look at
Speaker 4
him like, holy cow, I don't even know if I agree with that.

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