Comedians have the ability to be unsparingly honest in ways that buck all cultural norms. It’s a truth-telling that so many of us crave.

Cue Rob Delaney.

Rob is a comedian, actor, writer, and director. His memoir, A Heart That Works is an unsparing account of the death of his beautiful son, Henry. Rob lives in London with his family where Kate visited him for this honest and hilarious conversation.

Kate and Rob discuss:

The importance of finding people who really understand what you’re feeling

What not to say to people whose kids have died

How tragic loss exiles you to a planet where only those who understand grief live

The ways we hope grief metabolizes in us and transforms us into empathetic, heart-open kinds of people

Rob wants us all to understand that if the unthinkable happens, our hearts still beat so strong in truth and love.

CW: hard-earned explicit language of a bereaved parent, death of parent, Suicide, death of a child

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