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How to Plan for Long Term Transformation Projects
So what you're saying is you need to enter the conversation where it's happening. And I think it's about, listen, while we are putting out fires, can we do a few things to start putting in the foundation? That's kind of one of the art of the whole thing because see, fundamentally, the less time you have with the basic rule of time I do, the more carbon or more bodies you're going to throw in a problem, right? You're going to brute force it. Those are really good rules of thumb up an excellent point which I don't think anybody could argue with.