"I wouldn't wanna be first. If other people had been there in sort of established, I think that there was, the game sim earth was like an old like Dawson with those game." "There was this mechanic where fossil fuels were easy to get and very important early on in your planet's life... And then you needed to, but you also need to be like developing and switching to renewables at an appropriate time," he says. 'That's a really compelling like world building note to me' Andrew: Could we make another similar planet more livable quickly? Who knows? That's a big question.