"I think one of the things that i was able to do in this recent transition, which i didn't do in any of the or is actually almost look for jobs without actually looking for jobs," he says. "Go write down five industries or job titles and then go unlinked in." He advises people who are stuck in trying to get into a new industry: "Just ask them like, hey, you like your job? Or what don't you like about your job?"