The financial cycle dictates the narrative. It totally does, though, doesn't it? Can we change that? Or is that just always going to be the case? It will probably always be a part of crypto. But as there are more explicit applications that are used end to end by the mainstream, it will follow a little bit. Kind of like in the 90s, people thought of computers as a nerd thing. You have to kind of reframe it to make it a nerd thing again.

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