The Complexity of Vladimir Putin's Life

I wanted to show the complexity of what you've just described. If you have a society that doesn't dream of anything and doesn't believe in anything, then someone like Putin emerges out of it. This is not a justification for Putin, but we misunderstand where he's coming from. And they did to go back to that woman, more paper in her apartment. It was extraordinary. We haven't yet got the measure of it.