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Ep. 235 - Steven Zapata

The Collective Podcast

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You're Blessed to Have a Life You Have, You Know?

"Most of the caution to zone out. You're getting, getting deep with yourself and thinking on it," he says. "If you put your mind on that stuff just with some regularity, you kind of build a little, a little interior ritual space for it." He adds: "It's always hard to bring it down to one thing ... It's awesome to hear that... I'm so happy for you"

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