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How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

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The Art of Winning

I love New Zealanders. I've never been to New Zealand, but it's one of the biggest podcast audiences is New Zealand. So shout out to everyone listening in New Zealand. You do you need to grow and evolve through that time in order to be successful. There is no structure or formula to winning. It's just this huge learning curve that you're on,. And I saw that as an art. That's why, you know, I titled the book The Art of winning.

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