Are We Going to Be the Ideal Church Sizes X or the Ideal Church Structure?

Caviette: We're not going to be saying the ideal church sizes X or the ideal church structure is-- Yeah. Or what this particular church should do here is this -- Yes. Because yeah, we hope it's a little more broad than that. And look, we are also not-- there's so much good literature and thinking and study around this stuff like we are two small voices and a big sea of people who have thought long and hard about this stuff. A lot of people have spent a long time chatting about this and not being heard a long time. So yeah. Caviette, Caviette.