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The Temple of Artemis
In the ancient times, there was really not an unbelief problem. You kind of had to pick a side and now modern day people are so apathetic. So it's like there's a real malevolent world out there, cosmic world that's out there. And we see that it break through in different spaces that I think some, some people phrase it as thin. Like if you have places where heaven meets earth, then they've got to be thin.Like logic has to work both ways. We can't just be like, Oh, everything is good on the heaven side and not believe there's not malevolent dark spaces as well.