What Kind of Changes Are Coming Out With Your New Book?

Ben: I think it comes from that materialist perspective, the material reductionist perspective where, you know, matter is dead and all just a blank slate for us to project our will on to. The revision will have like a lot of greenhouses, cold frames that really never made into the first book. It's just starting with some of those and I've now done like three, live with three greenhouses since,. A lot of like tools and management in the first 10 years was system establishment. And then for the last 10 years, there's mostly been system management. So my focus has become management, pretty much not establishment.