You've Got to Ask for Step One to Ten First

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Ask for step one to ten first. If you have not actually shown you understood that, it's almost an automatic no. You're asking me to invest probably tens of millions of dollars over the course of a couple of years and dozens upon dozens of people to maintain and support this thing. So if someone comes in overly confident in that regard I immediately think that they're hiding something or they don't fully understand the ramifications. They're being naive because when you do engineering long enough things break timelines continue to push out.

Jason and Eiso ad lib on a variety of topics. From consensus-driver cultures, the trouble with software engineering endorsements and capacity planning best practices.

Warning: Eiso recorded this episode from a boat out at sea (ahoy!), so that’s why you can sometimes hear background noises coming from his side. We apologize for this and will try to keep all recording sessions on land from now on.

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