How to Have a Normal Civilian Life

Cultish: How did you go about having a normal civilian life, like outside of this? It just seems to me like there's such a juxtaposition between this secret type of life being hoodwinked and then trying to actually participate in normal society. So sorry to keep you on the cliffhanger, but we will jump into really what happened once you were there in the hermetic or the golden dawn. But it's going to be really looking for this other part of this conversation.