The Importance of Podcasting

I just felt like the genre was changing. Because there was not that much innovation going on in check. Everyone copied us like crazy and made fun of us when we started. And so I just felt like I had interviewed every single person. So I thought there's other ways to reach them. podcasting was one of the big reasons is that. Well, your podcasts are extraordinary. On with Cara Swan with Cara Sushor. But then your succession podcast. Do you like that? Oh my God. Most people don't know those people. It's all very well. One of the reasons I'm much more independent than I used to be. You sort of get this.