Tom Bodrovics and Keith Weiner delve into the intricacies of fundamental price and basis rates in the gold and silver markets during their conversation on Palisades. The Gold Standard Institute president and Monetary Metals CEO, elucidates how their model offers insights into market tensions and potential price movements by determining where the market would settle if all futures speculation were to unwind. Keith also discusses lease rates, which reflect metal abundance or scarcity, in relation to market evaluations for gold and silver investments.
The conversation revolves around the disparity between the costs of producing and refining gold and silver, with significant spreads for refiners. Although mining costs are essential considerations, Keith argues that all potential gold supply remains in circulation due to its value and desirability. Keith challenges the Quantity Theory of Money and Milton Friedman's treatment of gold and printed dollars as equivalent, emphasizing their differences in origin and effects on the economy.
Weiner also discusses the implications of an ever-growing US national debt and interest payments. He argues that the world operates on a dollar basis, creating a relentless bid on the dollar despite its growing debt. Keith discusses commercial real estate bubble and the impact on banks and zombie companies, raising concerns about potential insolvency due to rising interest rates and loan asset markdowns.
The conversation concludes with discussions about upcoming financial crises, including the 'everything bubble,' and the potential dilemmas facing the Federal Reserve in addressing it, given the larger debt levels and more significant interest rate hikes than during previous periods. Keith highlights the importance of creating an honest monetary system based on gold, emphasizing market-based alternatives to Keynesian philosophy and personal opt-out options to avoid capital debasement.
Talking Points From This Episode0:00 - Introduction0:40 - Measuring Price of PMs8:32 - Current Market Temps10:40 - Analysis & Lease Rates14:14 - All-In Production Costs19:22 - Do Fundamentals Matter?22:57 - Qty. Theory of Money35:27 - Debt & Interest Payments41:37 - Commercial Debt & Banks55:26 - Bank Bailouts & Fed59:40 - Central Planning Problems1:06:30 - Kicking Cans & Politics1:11:32 - Any Possible Solutions?1:23:18 - Net Worth & Risk/Return1:31:10 - Wrap Up
Talking Points From This Episode
Gold and silver market insights using fundamental price analysis.
Challenging Quantity Theory of Money and gold vs. printed dollars equivalence.
Implications of US debt, commercial real estate bubbles, Fed bank bailouts, and zombie companies.
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Keith Weiner is the founder and CEO of Monetary Metals, an investment firm that is unlocking the productivity of gold. Most people regard gold as a dry asset, to lock away in a vault, incurring storage fees. Many are waiting for it to rise in price.
Keith and Monetary Metals are on a mission to change this.
Gold should once again serve to finance productive enterprises and extinguish debts. The dollar performs one of these functions, but not the other. Bitcoin cannot finance anything, as no business can borrow a currency that’s expected to go up a hundred times. Gold is the one thing that fills both roles, par excellence.
Keith writes and speaks extensively, based on his unique views of gold, the dollar, credit, the bond market, and interest rates. When he is not working on the business, he is developing his theory of monetary science, and an arbitrage theory of economics.
Keith also serves as founder and President of the Gold Standard Institute USA. His work was instrumental in the passing of gold legal tender laws in the state of Arizona in 2017.
