The advice is a to you hnave experience that kind of aliveness in the context of non obvious things that are not obviously pleasurable. And you definitely don't want to follow the lower level the liveness, and think that it's ethical. Ins peple who meditate get this arangemen, the hell you doing them? Youre torturing yourself. Move siver. Sometimes for some people it never doesn't hurt. But similarly, like i had this experience in carriei. So is not a pleasant experience, and yet it is absolutely correct.
In this first conversation after a year sabbatical from the Emerge project I'm speaking with Zak Stein. This is a far ranging conversation about ethics, education, trauma, the erotics of moral understanding, and more.
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Show Notes
- 0:00 Opening
- 0:03 How to create the kinds of humans who can respond to the meta-crisis?
- 0:08 “We’re not sure what it means to be good anymore” / what’s worth loving
- 0:09 Eros and Ethics / Ensoulment
- 0:17 Moral development
- 0:23 “How do you get someone interested in what is truly good?”
- 0:25 Linking / meta-psychology
- 0:29 Community ethics feedback loops
- 0:33 Objective ethics
- 0:37 Embodied ethical sensing
- 0:38 Intersection between Trauma & Ethics, desensitization, somatic de-armoring
- 0:43 Trust, return of the Sacred
- 0:47 The Moral Exemplar
- 0:52 Exposure to the full ethical range
- 0:54 “Trauma” in culture
- 0:62 Evil
- 0:68 Practices for Wellbeing
- 0:72 “Enlightenment is your greatest disappointment”
- 0:74 Eros & Ethics
- 0:77 Human as ethical actor, intimacy and obligation
- 0:81 Circling, following “aliveness”, co-discovering moral landscape
- 0:85 Path = compromising moral integrity increasingly intolerable
- 0:88 Ethics in Community, MAPLE’s advantage
- 0:90 Closing