The Unreal Reality of by-Elections

I haven't spoken to Nigel personally, although I've known him 20, 25 years. It's one of those strange things where it seems to be the only job in the world that if you resign from it, all hell breaks loose. The challenge on the economy is it doesn't matter who you've gotten now. A lot of the policies are already in place. There a sense of K-Starmer and his approach, not really seizing people's imaginations. And there's another aspect of the contest in Selby and Ainsley - they're both very well off.