Nubar wanted someone who would know when to put the brakes on certain risks in order to make sure the moon shot had maximum chance of being achieved. The one thing i have seen in him that i think has served him well since is what i call, generally, this notion of paranoid optimism. And so my mindset definition of a high growth, anpinereal leader is that you need to be both paranoid and optimistic. He was able to see the possibility, even though he could foresee the challenges. But note how nebar doesn't restrict stefon's roll to that of the brakeman. He knew that the relationship would be far more nuance than that. No one's roll was