How to Build a Product for Your Online Business

At this time, you weren't a programmer, were you? No. And so I think it's interesting because a lot of people are in your position where they might have some marketing skills or they might not, but they certainly don't know how to code. And yet here you are not a programmer and you're launching, you've launched numerous products at this point. How do you define, build a product as someone who's not a programmer himself? So this is actually an interesting question. I actually, um, I've done a couple talks on how I conceptualize different products. But kind of the first level of products that I think about when I'm talking about online businesses or