Richie: How you get paid is really to do with operations how you work that's an interesting contrast for me to get my head around. You could be an entrepreneur and still be controlled by the system you've created and still have your values completely out of alignment so it's clearly not quit your job start you then you'll have the freedom absolutely, he says. Richie: We have to ask a bigger question not where do you want to be in 10 years it's too far away we'll ask to happen over the next two years for you to feel like you're happy and successful oh can we bring this home?