What's the Sea Change?

A friend of mine, mark o'brien, runs new fangled and he was an intern when i first met the owner at the time. He wasn't an intern at that point, like, he'd become a key employee. And it's just an example of how this could happen. So you don't necessarily have any of those people on staff, but maybe you do. Even if you don't have somebody on staff who wants to buy whole thing in x number of years, you might very well have someone on staff that would lighten the leadership burden for you. You just want somebody whose butt is on a line like yours, that you can have slightly different conversations about.