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The cofounder of Chef is cooking up a less painful DevOps

The Stack Overflow Podcast

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The Pathos of DevOps

You had reached a plateau of your own where I was like, you know, I know how to fix this and make it work for the company. So can you talk a little bit about where you went from there? I guess you decided to leave and start a new initiative system initiative. Yeah. What was the, what was kind of the seed there,. You know, the frustration, but then the idea to make it better.

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