Simon: 'I feel i've been calling bert crisher for, i don't know, the past three, four months' Joe: 'If if someone he knows has a book, he's just immediately like, this thing has to be a best seller. I understand that Cameron haines has some sort of menter position in joe's life.' Simon: 'i'm pretty sure, if you look at his book, it says, new york number one, new York times best seller on gordand peterswellok, yes, was discussing,. i could have swort when they said that, and then they pulled up that article which obviously discredited my thoughts'

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