In those days, we didn't understand that you really need to lower LDL cholesterol with a CTP inhibitor to see an effect on a CVD. And I think we would only go on afterwards to see two Mendelian randomizations. One looking at genes that raised HDL cholesterol and one looking at genes That lowered HDL cholesterol neither were found to be causally linked to ASCVD. So when I hear people tell me that their high HDL cholesterol is protecting them from coronary artery disease in the presence of high LDL cholesterol, I have to restrain myself in the context of C-type inhibitor failure.

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